Here are a pair of Size 8 German made black patent and white kid tie doll shoes. Shoes have 3 sets of metal grommets for ties. . Shoes are 3.5" long, 1 & 3/8" across the feet and 1" across the heels. One shoe is impressed 8 on its shiny cardboard sole. The other is missing the sole. Shoes show well and are suitable for male dolls with narrow feet.